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The Way I See it: Occupy Our Community, Our Country

Today's Revolution

  In recent weeks, I have followed the Occupy Wall Street movement that has expanded to Atlanta and throughout major cities of the U.S. and worldwide.

  It should not come as a surprise that people who have seen their income and lifestyle decline drastically over the past couple of decades or lose jobs in a failing economy along with young people just out of college who cannot find jobs become angry and want changes.  It is similar to the demonstrations of the 1960s and brings back memories of those days on the campus of the University of Georgia when students paraded and chanted against Vietnam.  

  In those days students and other people demonstrated, marched, shouted and changed the laws of the land and stopped a war.  It was not a slow process and it was not without hazards and even deaths of some people.  Students were killed at Penn State by National guardsman during a demonstration.  Civil rights workers were killed and some children died during incidents in the years of seeking change.

  Today many of those battles are forgotten and much progress has been made in some areas.  However, some things are similar.

  Today this country is mired in wars that many citizens do not want to continue and the middle class which has been the pride and goal for so many people is losing ground almost daily along with new college graduates who cannot find jobs have become fed up.  This combination has created the atmosphere for a new movement.

  It takes a lot for so many people to reach a point that they are willing to go out and criticize not only  government leaders, but the economic leaders.  The banks and big corporations which for so long have gained their wealth and power from the people are being held up as the cause for today's economic and much of the social problems.

  Have you read the Declaration of Independence recently.  It appears appropriate for our times.  Just as in 1776, the people determined that the government of England no longer had the interests of the people here as their primary goal.

 To paraphrase that great document, the government derives its "just power" from the consent of the government and when the government becomes "destructive to these ends" the people have the right to "alter or abolish it."

  Some Republicans have called the "occupy" movement a mob.  Others seem to disregard them.  Both have missed the point.

  This is simply an uprising of the 99 per cent against the one percent who have become  modern kings of the realm.  This movement is growing and the main problem is whether a specific aim or list of grievances will be developed so that everyone will know what the people want from the kings and the government.

Chris Roberts October 19, 2011 at 01:33 pm
Since when do opinion pieces get to be the main story? This isn't what I thought the Patch was supposed to be about.
On another note, maybe those that are so made at the banks should take their money to another bank. It's called Capitalism. You have the freedom to choose and if these big banks are treating people so badly they will eventually lose all of their customers and go out of business. That my friend is how you protest a company.
Kiri Walton (Editor) October 19, 2011 at 01:36 pm
Hey Chris, we change our stories constantly throughout the day. Usually (unless there are really hot stories) the latest story is in the top spot. There's nothing wrong with an opinion piece being in the top spot. It's marked prominently as a blog post and hopefully will get people talking in our community, which is what Patch is about.
Plus, I always love that you comment! Where have you been?
Mark October 19, 2011 at 05:11 pm
I think a story about this "movement" on the front page is interesting, regardless of one's opinion on such protest. Its online journalism site, not a regular newspaper which typically reserves editorials always several pages back. I think this story has caught the attention of everyone in ATL metro and is worth the front page. I agree though that editorials should not always be on the front page. Perhaps you just don't like the story or the idea of Americans protesting unfair banking practices? In direct response to your comment "perhaps if you are mad at the banks you should take your money to another bank" its called capitalism" ...Well, capitalism assumes fair competition, and our banking industry is almost void of any competition. In fact, the international banking system and the U.S. banking system consquentially is practically monopolized in light of several large mergers. Small banks are often squeezed out by fascist government policies that bail large banks out for their own mistakes while leave the smaller banks struggling. If it was capitalism, then why didn't our government just allow these banks to fail? My friend, bailing out these large banks with hardly any relief to the actual consumers (by the way, consumers were guilty too) is unfair, anticaptialistic.
Mark October 19, 2011 at 05:16 pm
CONTINUED FROM BELOW, read 1st) ....In the digital age, leaving a bank is a major hassle (i.e. automatic debit set ups, mortgages, etc). Moreover, with no competion or little of it, credit unions or other small banks find it very difficult to conveniently compete with the larger companies while over competitive rates due to the large volume larger banks can handle...which effectively permits lower Interest Rates for consumers. So when the laws and practices of our government are written in favor of large corporations and banks how can you scream captialism? Yes, I think maybe the $5 charge on debits or any other unfair practice will drive Americans to smaller, credit unions (which by the way most credit unions and small banks did not fail during this crisis...since well, you know they are owned by the people...unlike our government which is owned by the corporations...). As a Bank of America customer myself, I will be switching to another bank once this charge hits my account next year or goes into effective. Yet again, that leaves me scrambling across the city to try and find cash for lack of ATMs (again, big bailed out banks can use the laws and monopoly to limit smaller banks from placing ATMs everywhere). Maybe this will drive people to using cash also. Lastly, protesting in the street is a valid form of protest, especially in light of our first ammendment right to do so and in light of current banking practices. To be heard over a bought congress can be a challenge.
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Kenya October 19, 2011 at 08:24 pm
What's so wrong with protest? I think the protest is drawing more attention to the fact that more people should take their money out of big banks. The competition is not fair as Mark pointed out, and we need to work much harder to change the way these companies operate. The first step is awareness.
Robin October 20, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Roger, thanks for getting this conversation started. Just a point of clarification, though, from someone who lived through those times -- the kids shot by the National Guard were at Kent State (in Ohio), not Penn State. About the same time, peacefully protesting students were also shot and killed at the University of South Carolina at Orangeburg. Our right to peacefully protest has been tested over the centuries in many ways.
Chris Roberts October 20, 2011 at 04:46 pm
@Mark
When is the last time you went and shopped for a bank? Void of competition? I just don't think you have tried. I've been at a small bank for years and they meet every need I have and have equal or better rates than the big banks. (I can even use ANY ATM in the country for free, try finding that at a big bank.) Why wait for them to invoke the fee, if you don't want to support these big banks then fire them. Please don't think I am supporting a bail out or these big banks. I just protest with my money since that's what they care about. You're the one that keeps giving them your money, not me. :)
Chris Roberts October 20, 2011 at 04:50 pm
Kenya,
Nothings wrong with the protest and hopefully it will make people think twice about where they spend their money and support. What's unfair about the competition? What do the big bank do that a small bank can't? You're right, the first step is awareness. Shop other banks and find a replacement so you can fire the big banks. I did this years ago and didn't have to sacrifice anything.
Chris Roberts October 20, 2011 at 04:55 pm
@Kiri,
It was marked well but when I think of the Patch I think your tagline: "Comprehensive and trusted local coverage of Mableton, Austell and Clarkdale." I liked the Patch so much because it was mainly local news with some opinion pieces on the sideline. It caught me off guard to see an opinion piece rather than a reporting piece, that's all. If the Patch becomes a collection of local people blogging that's fine, just not for me. Sorry, been busy at work and haven't had time to comment in a while. More to come...
Pam J October 20, 2011 at 09:52 pm
I think that it's great that so many citizens have decided to take action against whatever they are taking action against. We sit around and complain about things, but very seldom do we ever actually do anything about it. I was young when the Viet Nam war was taking place. I had an uncle who fought in it. I remember seeing the protests and the violence that arose out of some of them. One of my good friends was at Kent State when those students were killed and she just missed being in that area by about five minutes. I'm glad that the current day protesters are being civil and I think that just setting up "camp" like they are will, and has, gotten people's attention.
Kenya October 20, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Chris, I wouldn't say the small banks can't do those things, but won't (and that's a good thing) I think it's unfair because the larger banks use their lobbying muscle to get legislation bent in their favor, which makes it harder for the little guys to compete. Just like Wal-Mart and plenty of others...The things they do are crooked in my opinion, but they don't get in trouble for burying traps in small print on purpose and making a point to entice people who are not savvy. Most people won't know a bad deal until it's too late. So that's why I think it's good that these protests are bringing attention from everywhere, not just the people who already know better.
Charles Black October 21, 2011 at 07:46 pm
When I see the Occupy Wall Street kids interviewed on TV all I can think about is that "youth is wasted on the young".
Then I think of the Segar song Against the Wind "Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then. They look like they are having fun, but they don't have a cue. We protested the Vietnam War. Now that was a just cause.

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