Great question, Adrienne. We live-blog all kinds of things at Patch. Today, for example, we have live blogs of county commissioner meetings in Paulding and Cobb counties. We do City Council meetings, school boards, sports events. While Peter answered your question about the zoning meeting, you and all other Patch users should always feel free to suggest events worthy of live coverage to your local editors. Thanks!

Adrienne, are you satisfied with Jacob's response?

"Great question, Adrienne. We live-blog all kinds of things at Patch. Today, for example, we have live blogs of county commissioner meetings in Paulding and Cobb counties. We do City Council meetings, school boards, sports events. While Peter answered your question about the zoning meeting, you and all other Patch users should always feel free to suggest events worthy of live coverage to your local editors. Thanks!

Since when has Jacobs been one of "we of the Patch" (too)?

Nothing better than live blogging the drafting of a zoning code. "Is that a run-on sentence? Put a comma there!" Adrienne - do me a favor and move out of town. You probably are a renter.

Peter, you're the best! Thank you!

Oops! here's the question:

"How will we streamline our zoning timeline to be competitive with other jurisdictions?"

Any State of the Union speech by any president is about getting them selves re-elected.

Outstanding Thank you was not able to attend a watch group sorry wanted to go to the one on Bogg
Thanks again keep up the excellent efforts

It's mind-numbing to watch the left chase their tails on the "shipping jobs out of the country" issue. The left sets up an environment that encourages (& sometimes forces) businesses to leave the US, and then blames everyone but themselves for what's going on.

On one hand the left screams for labor, environmental and economic regulations that make it impossible for businesses to operate in the US (let alone prosper), and on the other scream for globalization. Then when companies and jobs logically (& sometimes necessarily) move elsewhere, they scream that the evil businesses are killing the middle class.

& this just scratches the surface. There is sooo much more to this issue than anyone ever take the time to think about.

@ Chris - You're right, re: labor, environmental, and economic regulations. However, these are things that are a bi-product not of just "the left", but of our growth as a country as a whole. When you're considered the wealthiest and most powerful nation on the earth, people are going to attempt to improve the lot of the nation as a whole, which means things like minimum wages. I can't opine to where the appropriate equilibrium is, but I don't think I'd want to see American workers enduring the same conditions that Chinese laborers do.

As far as the environmental regulations, that is more of a - we created this mess, and now we need to set an example as to how it should be cleaned up. With the rapid development of Asia, Latin America, etc., which are all full of people vying to become the new middle class, which means consuming like the middle class, in a world facing considerable strains on resources from energy to agriculture, something has to be done. Capping emissions, or developing technology to find new sources of energy/food are the only options. However, in order to do these things, we need well educated people - something that "the right" has actively worked against. The President hit the nail on the head when he bemoaned the fact that people from all over the world are coming to the U.S. to get an education, and then going elsewhere to use that education to develop something groundbreaking. Immigration reform changes that, and we know where the "right" is.

If we have someone like Mitt Romney in office likely employment would continue to leave the our country unless there are some changes in how we view manufacturing. Before Steve Jobs died, he was asked what would encourage Apple to stop using workers in China, South Korea, Europe (yes, Europe, the land of "left-wingers"), etc. to produce the millions of iPhones and other Apple products. He replied that wages were not the factor, but that those countries were better set up for meeting manufacturing requirements. Labor, environmental, and economic regulations were not a factor.

While wages, etc., may factors for other businesses, the reality is that, even under Republican administrations, manufacturing jobs continued to leave.

While the tax code gives breaks for capital gains, many investments are not in developing expensive manufacturing, but in things like stocks of existing companies that provide returns but add little to the economy in real terms. Unfortunately, the political candidates who reap rewards from such investments are disinclined to change the system. Where 1% of our population controls 42.2% of the wealth (based on 2010 data) and we have a shrinking middle class, we have become a country that encourages paper profits over investment in workers.

I heard PresBO. say the same thing. We didn't have the money we spent on the war to begin with... It was borrowed money. I think a better idea is not to spend money we never had, now that the war is winding down. Not reallocated the spending of borrowed money.

A FYI.... the money for the war was BORROWED! There IS NO money to rebuild ... THAT is the problem! I liked what Obama had to say about paying down the debt. Something he has never said before... it is usually spend spend spend.

The Daily Show had a representative on Monday night to discuss the health care reform. Part of the reform is insurance companies will have to pay 80 cents of every dollar they receive on patient services. Only 20 cents may be used for overhead and that includes CEO salaries. Hopefully the reform will stand and doctors will receive appropriate compensation instead of insurance premiums going to pay CEO salaries and dividends.

James, at no point did I state the Daily Show is a NEWS source. I stated someone (the secretary of health services) was on the show discussing health care reform. Jon Stewart does not claim to be a news source, he clearly states he is a comedian. Unlike Fox News (?) who claim news in their title but by their own admission air only 4 hours of programing a day that actually qualifies as news. They classify the other 20 hours as entertainment. As for a moron, my IQ is higher than 99% of the population on earth, I have three college degrees and can better discuss politics and world events on here than you could ever dream. Crawl back into your uneducated hole in the woods.

James at no point did I make of the claims you have attributed to me, but like the right wingnut you are you paint with broad strokes and cast unsubstantiated assertions. I will state that I have NO doubt I am more intelligent, greater, better adjusted and prettier than you. I have made no claims about how I live. I am fortunate that I was born into an upper middle class home that afforded me the oportunities to attend college. I do not resent anyone who wasn't born into my advantageous situation for trying to better theirs. If my tax dollars and donations can assist even one person on a fixed income or in public housing with improving their situation I consider it money well spent.

I hope people understand that the fourty bucks in our paycheck is coming out of the Sosc. Security trust fund, an entitlement that is already in critical shape. Frankly, I would rather not have the fourty or so bucks.
They love shell games in DC!

Here's a hypothetical but VERY realistic scenario why.

Rich guy has $50M in the bank and uses his ~$4M in dividends to start new business, or he donates them. He lives off of some of that $50M through the year. His "income" is 0 or even a loss and he pays no taxes.

Poor guy makes $35k/yr and pays maybe $1500 in taxes after everything is said and done.

Now think about this for a second. Which person here provided more pure financial benefit to the economy and nation? Rich guy by spending or donating $4M to charities or funding new business, or Poor guy who was taxed $1500?

Just because 1 person has more money in the bank than someone else does not mean they should be penalized for it.

When you President snowed you in to believing that the Buffet rule is anything but pandering, it proves to me that he was successful in appealing to his target audience.

Warren Buffet's secretary pays EXACTLY the same tax rate as Warren Buffet on earned income. She also pays EXACTLY the same tax rate on capital gains. Notice please that the President never mentioned that.

And very few people realize that the Republican party of Abraham Lincoln's days is what the Democratic party is these days...

The Democratic Party of today is nothing like the Democratic Party of the 70's and prior. Carter helped make that happen.

The four million jobs lost under George W. Bush? Cost of Iraq war (which Bush lied to start) $800 billion, over 33,000 Americans killed in the Iraq war and you think Carter and Obama were worse. Shall we add the $700 billion Bush threw at the banking industry with no regulations as to how the money could be spent. Monetary costs for just the war and the bailout under Bush are 1.5 trillion dollars, that is trillion with a "T". If you want to throw out the "bad president" comment back it up with fact.

I must correct you on one point, Mr. Bozeman...... ANY dream with Comrade Obama in it is NOT a dream.... it is a NIGHTMARE!!LOL! Am right there with you.

Marcy where in the h e l l did you get the idea 33,000 Americans have died in the Iraq war. Truth is less then 6,000 have died. One is to many but I served during most of that war and had many friends that went back time and time again not because they where forced to but because they wanted to. Better go back and read your facts you are so far off base with almost all of them. Bush is no longer in charge and this current President has done more harm then good. You can see how our public education system is failing us due to all the misinformation put out on places like the patch.

Joe, my opinion is that he already has Carter beat. Carter turned my family into Republicans.

Hellboy I got it from a website that tracks deaths and injuries of American soldiers. Their columns were a little confusing between deaths and injuries so I may have put the deaths and injuries combined total. But it remains that more Americans died in a war created by Bush based on lies and myths than died in the terrorist attacks on the US. This is unacceptable to me. Neither you nor any of your fellow soldiers should be sent to a war that was created for corporate profit (Hallibuton, Dick Cheney was CEO).

I am putting my foot in my mouth before I say something here that I will not regret!
All I will say is, If you did not serve and go to Iraq, you have no clue as to what WAS found.

I'm afraid you are misinformed, Gladys. As of December 5, 2011 Congress has passed 25 jobs-related bills. They are stuck and going nowhere in the Senate, which as you know, is lead by Democrat Harry Reid. In his speech he called on Congress to pass the payroll tax cut “without delay.” He didn’t mention that House Republicans approved exactly that last year, only to be forced to go along with the Democratic Senate that extended the tax cut for two months. Both parties now agree on a full year’s cut. You see, President Obama has been in office 3 years and has absolutely NOTHING to run on. His only hope is to paint the Repulicans as a do-nothing congress. Don't you find it strange that this speech said nothing of his signature achievement, the American Recovery and Investment Act, AKA the stimulus bill? Or that he only dedicated 44 words to big health care achievement? He didn't mention it because the majority of Americans hate these big spending bills and want less, not more goverment. This speech nothing but platitudes, and I truly hope this was the last SOTU we will have to endure from Obama.

Thank GOD for the Repubs! And I CAN"T STAND the Rep. party! Jobs that are created by GOVERNMENT are a drain on the economy, not a positive thing.
If this marxist president gets elected again, there is NO hope for the country. America can not survive the devestation of four more years with Obama.

Wait a minute Gladys. I thought Obama was a Democrat. Didn't he just vote down the Keystone pipeline that would have created your JOBS JOBS JOBS.. When did he switch parties?????

Wow...biggest dumbass of the day award goes to....

Yeah, a multi-millionaire buying another vacation home really makes a difference in the economy. Meanwhile the 10,000 employees laid off from his corporation so he could receive the big bonus to buy the one house just had 10,000 houses go into foreclosure. Great economic policy you've got there Ben.

Urbanist (says it all), nice command of the English language. Patch, this is against your policies. Please remove his/her post so he/she can call it censorship.

Did you read Ben's post? And you're criticizing my use of the English language?

Ben-
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Just thought you may need some extra commas since you used most of them in your last post.

Care to elaborate on how your success is "being stolen from you and given to someone who will not work"? I'm successful, and don't feel penalized at all. As a matter of fact, I'm in favor of being penalized more (as a whole) via a higher tax rate. The situation we're in is miserable - economically speaking - and the largest contribution to that in the past 20 years has been 2 wars, and a recession led by Republican mass-deregulation and senseless monetary policy that enabled a real estate bubble like no other. We have to pay our bills, and find capital to rebuild the education and infrastructure of this country, and you're not going to get that by cutting spending alone.

I work 60 hours a week and make less than I did five years ago. Meanwhile the adminstrators above me have received payraises and extra paid vacation time. Why should I continue to work these hours for no recognition when according to you I can sit at home and let you pay my bills?

Dumbass...if it weren't for the government, the system that you know as capitalism would have collapsed on itself 4 years ago, and you'd be living in a ditch. Capitalism is good, so long as both ends of the bell curves are safeguarded against...

from someon that believes in making history fit the oppressor the rich the top the ones that win by any means available

Donald Duck is better than what's in office.

Watch out Heather.....your bias is showing.....referencing Newsweek as a relevant news source that is 'backed up by facts and written by an Independent' and representing Fox News as the liar. (am I on the Patch or HuffPo???)
You did get one thing right though. Obama 'discussed' having the 'best interest of the middle class'. That's all he has ever done - speak......from words typed out by someone else and displayed on a teleprompter. Sure he's a good speaker when he's already got the message (from whoever is behind the scenes pulling the puppet strings) in front of him on a screen. But when it comes to acting on his promises/speeches that's a different story. Even when the democrats had full control he couldn't get his promises fulfilled - except Obamacare (funny it seems he's forgotten about that.....or is trying to since the majority of America is against it). Can't wait until he gets voted out in November.

I am biased...biased towards people who care about other people and about having a decent society. Also, if you want to speak the truth and not just spew out nonsense propaganda, check out the Politifact study where they analyzed 500 of his promises. 400 or so of them have been fulfilled, are in progress, or he has compromised. Some have been broken, but more than that have stalled in Congress. If you want to talk about promises not be being kept, you can't target this President. And how can you criticize Obama for being led by puppet strings, when our last President could barely form a coherent sentence without someone feeding it to him. And speaking of biased, you are clearly regurgitating Fox News facts with your claims about health care reform. If you look at an impartial group, like the Kaiser Family Foundation, you will see that most people do support the reform. Those that don't like it are either too selfish to care about those less fortunate or grossly uninformed. Which one are you, I wonder?

Re: The Dish comment about Obamacare. I have not decided about this legislation, it is very complex; however, (1) many polls show the public favors it, (2) the Congressional Budget Office (which is nonpartisan) concluded that it would save hundreds of millions of dollars, and (3) it utilizes private sector, for profit, insurance companies.

The question should be: Why is Obama so DUMB!!!!!!!!!

Dish, your comments here are a wonderful recitation of Frank Luntz's greatest hits but in reality the President has a historic list of accomplishments that didn't somehow magically manifest out of his magic teleprompter. While certainly a gifted speaker, this President's actions have spoken much louder than his words.

Two posts by you in the last week David, both based on race. No logic. No facts. No sense. Just that big racial chip on your shoulder doing the talking. Did you also thank God for the 17% unemployment rate among those who are the same race as you and the President? Or did you instead thank him for giving you GW Bush to blame all of your and Obama's shortcomings on? (Black unemployment under Bush was half what it is under Obama by the way).

David realy it is all about race and the color of the mans skin. I think MLK would have turned bright red if he read your commit. We need a leader in the job not because of color but because of true leadership that will keep America stronge . I have supported many people of color running for public office when we shared the same ideas of what's best for this country. It is sad that 90% of the black population back a man due to his color and not his leadership. Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad

YES!!! Put aside the partisan differences and work together for the people of this country. I'm not a Republican nor a Democrat so I'm really sick to death of the partisanship. Grown men and women acting like toddlers throwing tantrums to get their way. At this point I don't care what is better for a corporation, I care about what is best for the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Really Brian? I was certain that you would have given Obama an A+. Just an 'A'?

I've got his back Dish, I'm well aware of both his and successes and failures. I didn't think this was a particularly historic speech but certainly one that put forth a few fresh policy ideas while trying to unite the nation behind our better angels. He made it clear he wants Republican participation but will move forward without it if need be for the good of the country.

From a purely political perspective it was a brilliant exposition of three and a half years of historic accomplishments vs. Republican intransigence and their inability to put forth anything other than the same stale policies they brought us to our knees. He has almost single handedly restored the American brand.

Brian are we speaking of the same Obama that is taking our country down the road to be a 3rd world Nation? Yes he speaks well but that does not flow over to how he leads or should I say the lack of leadership. Obama dazzles people with words and many fall for everyone of them. Nothing positive about this President nothing at all.

Gerrie,
You are correct. Bill Clinton will go down in history as a great President with the non educated and the non thinking. Seems like you have forgotten the first two years of his administration. What a mess! It was not until the Republicans took over the house and senate with the contract with America that he saw the light. Had he not stolen the Contract With America, he would have been a one term president. When he saw the voters did not want his policies he turned to the Right so fast it was funny. You people who think the Democrats care for the middle class better wake up. They want every citizen dependent on the government so they will follow the Democrat leaders like a herd of sheep.

It should be noted that Ford advocated for and supported the bailout because if GM and Chrysler went under, Ford would have lost many of its suppliers. Losing suppliers, they argued, would resulting in higher prices for parts. So, they were legitimately concerned that expected higher prices would ultimately take them down too.

People should also know that Ford didn’t file bankruptcy or get bailed out in the way that GM and Chrysler did. However, Ford did receive $5.9 billion in low-cost government loans in 2009 to overhaul its factories and bring out more fuel-efficient technology.

The fact is, with the aid of the bailouts for GM and Chrysler and that taxpayer loan, Ford managed to tiptoe past the graveyard too: http://www.factcheck.org/2011/09/ford-motor-co-does-u-turn-on-bailouts/

How a man that has never held a private sector job, was a junior Senator from a corrupt state and started his political career at Bill Ayers home and was in a church that the racist Jeremiah Wright was his pastor, how he gets elected shows that our public (government) schools are not working.

It's in the KOOLAID he feeds them, that an our poorly run Govt schools that breed these type of people.

I just wish we had the option of giving him a "Zero" F is realy to good a grade for him.

then dont vote you have the choice

Maybe no R but you have a good "F" running the office now. F for failure. What has this President done for anybody ? Obamacare is joke and needs a lot of work.

This is a ridiculous statement. What are we going to fight about? Budget deficit reduction strategies? Do you disagree so strongly with this administration's policies that you are willing to kill? Those who oppose this presidency will have an opportunity to peacefully remove President Obama from office in November. Get a grip!

ya tried civil war before remember or did you take that out of the text books and put in your fairy tales of hope and power

That is an ignorant statement, but I do agree that this president is piting color against color

Listen to his words Glen , hear his Marxist leaning in everything he says. I do not care if he is American or not as long as he takes care of the American people . Something he is not doing but he does put on a good show.

You are right Glen. This will be my last post, it's like trying to talk to a kindergarten class about politics. I could have a more logical discussion with my 4 year old nephew than with the ridiculous people on here. This whole thing has actually made me a little concerned about living in this neighborhood, I guess I was expecting a more enlightened and educated crowd in East Atlanta.

You are correct Glen. I'm tired of these people repeating inane arguments... The Republicans have NO arguments at all.

your comments lead me to believe that you were an honor student in a private school and come from a freeborn family line? Just like Sarah, Bush, and Perry

someone sounds jealous. Jealousy of the people that work hard and become successful. Worry about yourself and what you can do to make your life better.

There is a House Meeting on Feb 4, 2012 for President Obama
there were lots of watch parties for the State of the Union
I now an excellent turn out at the MLK

No accomplishments in education, health care, credit disclosure, etc etc etc. Those are the facts and disprove any rhetoric the Democrat Oppressors have tried to put out to the American people.

@Heather: "Marxist bad, Socialist bad; I hate Obama therefore he is Marxist." You see every bad term applies to someone I hate. That is how that specious argument goes. No undestanding of what Marxism is, no appreciation for the fact that no one person, president or not, could "turn the government or society Marxist." If this is the level of political discourse, we are in deep trouble.

I see Glen is one of those that Greg was speaking of. Glen must have went to one of our high achieving public schools.....LOL.

Julie,
I don't think most Obama followers read anything. It seems to me they follow this Pied Piper in any direction he wants them to go. The man ain't dumb, in my opinion, his goal is to destroy the United States by class warfare and he is doing a darn good job at it.

These are the books. Everyone of voting age should read these two books by him. You don't have to buy them, just get them from the library.

From Dreams From My Father
From Audacity of Hope

I think they can read their food stamp cards......not a raciest comment because more whites are on food stamps then blacks.

If extremely wealthy people like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett want to see taxes go up for the rich, is that an example Americans waging class warfare against themselves?

In my case, I'd love to see my own taxes rise to the level they were at under Clinton after the 1993 Democratic budget was passed. Am I engaging in class warfare against myself?

The cold hard facts are that 85% of the over $11 trillion in national debt run up between the end of the Ford administration and the beginning of Obama's first budgetary cycle was run up under Republican Presidents who all held the veto pen within their grasp. So much for small government Republicanism. The nearly $3.5 trillion incurred under Obama is due almost entirely to the need for stimulus spending and reduced tax revenues that were consequences of the massive unemployment he inherited from 30 years of disastrous Republican economic policy. There has been no socialist expansion of government under this President.

Brian has this so called $3.5 trillion stimulus created more jobs? By the way that debt under Obama was done in less the 3 years and he wants another $1.5 trillion for this year bring his total to $5 trillion during his first and hopefully only term. Take the blinders off and see the damage this man is doing to our nation.

We do have a department set up to take voluntary taxes from folks willing to pay extra. It probably takes more money to run the department than they take in.

Thanks for your support Mr. Orr.

RE: "...when Warren Buffet and his companies pay taxes, I'll believe him."

Warren Buffett and his companies don't pay taxes? That's news to me. However, if true, that would seem to support his position that he needs to be taxed more.

Warren Buffett published an editorial asking the government to raise his taxes: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html

You think that he's lying and that he doesn't really want the government to raise his taxes? I guess anything is possible, but for the life of me, I don't know why somebody would say that they want their own tax rates to be increased when they really don't.

RE: "...We do have a department set up to take voluntary taxes..."

For the record, the phrase "voluntary taxes" is an oxymoron. By definition, taxes are compulsory.

Thank you for this comment RL. Unfortunately, it didn't respond to my questions.

Julie Camp and others accuse people who support certain changes in our tax code of "class warfare". My question again is, how does one declare war on one's self? How does one envy one's own wealth?

If you agree that the answer to both questions is "you can't," then please say so and we can move on to a discussion about voluntary contributions vs. taxes (which, by definition, are compulsory).

Either way, check out this website about a group of millionaires who, some are asserting, are suffering from wealth envy of themselves and enacting class warfare on themselves: http://patrioticmillionaires.org/

Chris, some of these large corporations that support Obama area several years behind in taxes. I'm under the weather or I would look up the information. If I remember correctly, one of Buffets hasn't paid in like 4 or 5 years.

Someone look that up???

Julie,

I'd be glad to "look that up" if it was relevant...but it's not.

Warren Buffett and Bill Gates and others seeking higher taxes on themselves cannot be suffering from "wealth envy" or engaging in "class warfare" against themselves, no matter what their current tax rates are.

LOL Lee!!! I think that just flew over several heads

All smiles John reading your comment. We have an opportunity to force "mob" rule on the established system if we just sign petitions and force changes for example
Marijuana people need this natural relief why must they be forced to support the drug corporations sign my petition to classify marijuana as a herb

Straight facts--Unemployment continues to rise although unreported. Creeping towards 20%. Jobs are available, however there not pencil pushing jobs. There working jobs that require manual Labor. I know, I work in an industry where after just a few days people walk off the job because its too hard on them. Why should my tax dollars go towards paying them to sit on there A#@ at home. Obama has had 3 years to do something but he hasn't, other than throw bad money at bad investments. Just like recently, voting against the pipeline from Canada which would help eliminate some of the need for foreign oil and create jobs. I'm not saying that the US should stop looking for ways to be less dependant on oil but you can't get that way overnight. High gas prices keep people from being able to look for jobs on a regular basis. Homeless people? Most choose to be that way. I've seen homeless people offered jobs and they walk away from it. They would rather stay a drunk and a bum. You need to wake up. The people of the United States are getting Lazy!!!!

Din not create =BUT SURE HAS MADE IT WORSE, IN RECORD PROPORTIONS.

Heather, where are your facts?

Bill

RE: "Just like recently, voting against the pipeline from Canada which would help eliminate some of the need for foreign oil..."

Just a friendly reminder that Canada is a foreign county. Therefore, oil coming from Canada is FOREIGN oil.

@Chris...It's (the oil) on the North American Continent..Get Real

I apologize for the misunderstanding, One Voice. When you used the phrase "foreign oil" in your original comment, I was under the impression that you were referring to "foreign oil." My mistake.

The man in the office of your mind will never be unified as long as you cannot live a distorted life as a supreme being with out an education. when I bet your family were not freeborn when they arrived to cheat, kill and deamonize other humans

Joe, I mean that the man in office is the answer and the man in your mind is the problem. Get real allow one plus one to equal two without it damaging your self esteem

There is one thing for sure. The people of the United States will neve be unified as long as this man is in office. stated Joe Bozeman. My reply "this man in office" is the answer. The problem with the United States is the lack of economic and educational freedom that leave people unprepared to have ideas.

It wouldn't work. Simpson-Bowles recommendations couldn't get a majority vote from their own bipartisan commission, in part, because every single Republicans on the commission refused to support it (among some Dems). They didn't like the tax hikes and the defense cuts that the report recommended, and frankly, I don't think Obama did either. Nor did he like the recommended Medicare or Social Security benefit cuts.

If this report is popular, I suspect it's because most who support it don't know what's in it.

IMHO, if a few of the Simpson-Bowles Report recommendations been implemented, we would have avoided a downgrade. The Report is a roadmap of what ought to be done, which by it's very nature is going to be unpopular.

Ignoring the Report is the clearest signal that policymakers are unwilling to tackle this Nation's greatest issues.

You're right about the vote. Thanks for the correction.

Jon, Jon, Jon.... I remember when I had my first beer.