What I find to be at the heart of this whole debate is the disingenuous assertions by the NRA that nothing can be done to prevent the kind of shooting in Newtown. That is just totally wrong. For them to assert this they must believe by their definition only that an "assault" weapon was not used in the assault. Holy cow. These people can't be serious, and if they are allowed to succeed in defeating needed legislation through deceit, dishonesty and intimidation, then we deserve to lose.

Family and moral values need to be reestablished. It is a societal problem, not a gun problem.

It is way past time to start treating the NRA and their supporters like the fundamentalist extremists they are.

I support our President in his attempt to regulate firearms and provide a more ridgid process for screening people who buy firearms. I grew up a hunter and support our second amendment gun rights. Assault weapons, however, are not used for hunting or by hunters. Their sole purpose is to kill and maim human beings and they should be banned.

I am in complete agreement with the President.

Not a gun problem... if you follow this logic, you might as well ban cars.... They could be used to kill many people... oh wait, here is a solution to that, lets just make the gas tank smaller so you cant drive as far and run over as many people.

@ Barto, how many people have been shot without a gun? There will always be social problems, that is the nature of human civilization. But, where there are guns, disagreements and social problems become lethal at a much more efficient rate.

The second amendment is no longer needed. It was written at a time when America was just starting its life here and did not have a standing military. The amendment was meant for people to have guns so that if America was attacked, it could quickly form a civilian military that had guns ready to go. Because America has high tech military branches, it no longer needs to count on a civilian military. I wish the NRA would stop quoting this amendment, but I also agree that citizens should have the right to own guns for game hunting and to protect their homes and family. Only the military needs assault weapons.
Dave Patterson
Belleville, IL

None of this will prevent another crazy person from attempting something like this again. He used kids and violence to push his gun control agenda as he and his minions do everything else, shamelessly hiding behind the weak and unassuming. And it is now racist to disagree with him if you are white. He promised to bring this country closer together and he has divided us more than ever.

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
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With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.

SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

The propsals are not broad enough. The president always seems to start from a weak position and negotiate down. If any of the proposals survive legislative compromise they will be at the very best "baby steps" toward solving the problem. Gary Stockmann

All that the 1994-2004 "assault weapons ban" accomplished was to raise prices a little. It was still legal to own an AR-15. It was still legal to BUY an AR-15. It was still legal to buy a 30-round or 100-round magazine for an AR-15. (Or a Bushmaster, etc.) These things just had to have been manufactured prior to 1994.

The law did nothing to eliminate the MILLIONS of these things that are already out there.

Reviving the same law will be similarly ineffective. It's political theater, a placebo. Something highly visible that we can do, but which no one believes will be effective. But we can say "we tried to do SOMETHING", even if it's the wrong thing or an ineffectual thing.

Paraphrased from: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/17/there-s-little-we-can-do-to-prevent-another-massacre.html

Steps to American "Warm & Fuzzy" solutions:

1. We have to do something!!!!
2. This is "something".
3. We must do this.
Hello Gulf War!

Other country's have fewer gun crimes not because of the ban on guns. It's due to no 30-35 years of appeals for death row inmates. Once convicted they are executed, no repeat offenders. A gun has never killed anyone untill a person picks it up. heres an idea, lets ban cars. They kill more people then guns but not when there parked.

2nd Amendment - the word "militia" is important. In today's world there are no militias but rather, police in towns and cities. And, today we have a standing military. In my opinion, the omni presence of guns in the population has to do with a significant and deliberate effort on the part of the NRA to change the general perception of the 2nd Amendment. In essence, the NRA created a marketing campaign to adjust the understanding of the word 'milita' to include every person who wants to own a gun. In addition, they marketed their position as a "right to bear arms" that can be taken away by the Federal government thus making gun ownership a defensive posture against the government. America's democratic system becomes the enemy of freedom. Convoluted? Yes. But a brilliant marketing campaign to sell guns thus making it all about profit.

Regardless of their motives and I recognize both sides have them, I think parts of the proposal may address the actual issue of individuals flipping out. Epidemic in our government though is the tendency to attack the easiest 'soft spot' and tell everyone 'see, we are handling it' but it doesn't cure the illness. Crazy will still be crazy and no matter what we do we can't legislate it away. I'm not an NRA member (or even a supporter really since they 'sound' crazy most of the time) but I do own a gun and I can tell you that it's sat quietly in my closet for the last ten years. It's never even raised it's voice to me so I have a hard time believing it could have chosen to go out and kill if it wanted to. Another thing I know is the 'crazy' WANTS the aftermath of fame so background checks or even the tools they use won't matter. If we really want to limit this we'd need to go to the extreme of psychoanalysis on every person in America. Limit it by age group and other factors but that's the only way to stop it. So. The question is 'Do we really have the willingness to sacrifice to stop it or are we looking for the feel good, no sacrifice answer?'

Respectfully, Keith

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0o7YgiTFm4&feature=youtu.be

Dave Patterson, you are a confused idiot. If you say that you believe that "that citizens should have the right to own guns for game hunting and to protect their homes and family" then you do believe that the 2nd amendment is necessary opposed to your opening of "The second amendment is no longer needed." Why should we start giving up our rights so that some may "feel" safer, I have a gun and I know I am safer than if I didn't have one, safer from my gov't, safer from intruders, safer from an invasion of our American soil. Why do you think no one will send an army to attack the US? The 2nd amendment. We have an armed an ready volunteer army of millions.

And even if we DID magically eliminate all of the millions of "assault weapons" [sic] that are already out there . . .

Even if we confiscated and destroyed (with or without compensation) every last one of them . . .

. . . it still wouldn't even begin to solve America's gun violence problem.

There are approximately 11,000 firearm homicides in this country each year; approximately 300 of them are committed each year with the types of weapons we're talking about.

That means even if a ban/confiscation program were 100-percent effective and there wasn't a single "assault rifle" left on the planet, we've addressed only 2.7 percent of the problem we say we want to solve.

The gun violence problem remains 97 PERCENT UN-ADDRESSED.

An assault weapons ban is foolish and absurd. It won't work. And even if it *DID* work 100-percent effectively, it won't solve but a trivially tiny fraction of the problem.

What has happened to our society? I grew up never thinking someone would enter our school because people just didn't do that type of thing. We had mental institutions to house those needing help.
I grew up with guns in my house and a father who taught me about respecting their potential and the need to always practice safety first.
Our politicians are a disgrace. The family values that protected society have eroded and we are left to wonder how much longer can we survive.

Whether the Second Amendment applies to individual citizens or only to militias is irrelevant.

Whether an AR-15 is appropriate for hunting or not is irrelevant.

Whether the Second Amendment applies only to single-shot, muzzle-loading, 18th-century technology firearms or the AR-15 as well is irrelevant.

Banning the FUTURE manufacture of these weapons won't solve the problem, as it won't eliminate the ones that already exist.

Destroying every last one of these assault weapons that already exist (which no one is proposing, btw) won't solve the problem, because assault rifles are responsible for only a small fraction of the firearm homicides in this country each year.

What we have is a moral/cultural problem, a widespread disregard for the lives of others, a culture in which an individual's unhappiness is seen as more important than the lives of innocent bystanders.

Not only does this action begin to address the violence our children face, but also our law enforcement officers who put their lives in harms way to protect us. It is ridiculous that police officers carrying hi capacity semi-auto pistols are so easily outgunned by individuals who have planned ahead, armed themselves with assault rifles and hundreds of rounds of ammo hellbent on hurting people. A single armed officer at Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech, Aurora or any of the other recent events would have no chance against an individual armed to such an extent who has no regard for his/her own life or that of others. Putting armed officers in schools just requires a little change in plans to make sure they are the first target taken out.

I am a 2nd amendment advocate, I have no problem with collectors purchasing any type of weapon and everyday citizens owning handguns for home defense. But I see no reason that those people shouldn't be held accountable for their weapons if they fall into the wrong hands or are not secured adequately to prevent accidental shootings or theft and later intentional shootings. For us as a society to require that individuals have a THOROUGH background check and mental health screening is just common sense. Requiring special restrictions and collectors licenses for weapons of war is a no brainer. To allow the continuation of the current system is truly insanity.

I agree with the President. Those who believe that a heavily armed population is necessary to defend against attack on our country are delusional. All we are doing is providing the weapons for killing other Americans.and usually innocents. We have the largest armed forces in the world to defend our country. This is madness. Only those who profit financially or through their own grandiose sense of self-importance can support this arming of our citizens with heavy automatic weapons.

I don't own a gun. I don't care if others own them as long as they are not seriously mentally ill. The problem I see is this, in the immediate future, we cannot enforce the laws we currently have. The gun people are right about that and I can understand why they would believe that more laws would be equally unenforceable. So until we can find a way to enforce the law effectively, we need to remove the worst and most destructive weapons from the public. Then we can have to space and time to work on the core of the problems. Identifying the mentally ill and getting them the help they need. Teaching parents to be parents. Training gun owners on how to safely store their weapons. This is going to take a few generations to solve but we need to start today.....

I agree with Obama and I voted for Romney. Its harder to get a freaking drivers license than it is to get a gun!

Unfortunately, we leave in a republican state, with a republican House of Representatives and a republican Senate. We have two republican U. S. Senators, we have a vast majority of republican U. S. Representatives. We can debate this as much and as loudly as we want but these men and women have NRA scores in the 90's across the board. The likelihood that they will vote for any change to the existing structure is ludicrous. When the next Sandy Hook occurs, I'm holding each one that votes 'No' personally accountable.

The 2nd Amendment was put into place by our founding fathers so that in the event the people needed to throw over their government, they had the same firepower as the government would. While I agree with doing more detailed background checks on people who purchase guns, I do not agree with putting a ban on magazines. If a criminal walks into a "gun free zone" and shoots up the place, with it being gun free, he can just keep reloading, so the ban on magazine size wouldn't really help there. You need the high capacity magazine for things like home invasions, like the one that happened recently here in Georgia. She only had 6 bullets, and even after hitting the suspect 5 times out of the 6 shots fired, the suspect was still able to run away. What if there would've been two suspects there? She and her kids would have been harmed. What this country should really focus on is mental health care and restoring morals into our society. And if anything, we should ENCOURAGE LAW ABIDING citizens to carry concealed. Criminals are going to carry guns regardless of the laws as we need a way to protect ourselves and our families from criminals.

Non of these mass shootings have been carried out with an "assualt weapon" an assualt weapon has fully automatic capability. Just because a semi automatic rifle looks like a assualt wepon does not make it more deadly than any other rifle and who cares if it has a pistol grip. Get a grip people guns are not the problem I have a house full of guns that have never hurt a single person. Plus I have a fighting chance of saving my own like as appossed to just trying to stay alive long enough for help to arrive.

I support the president 100%. We do own guns in our home... but would never consider owning an assault weapon. I would be very happy if all of those were confiscated and destroyed. The NRA is a bunch of extremist, and are mostly funded by the gun manufacturers... No wonder they don't want any gun controls!
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/01/17/nra-obama-kids-ad-money/

This is getting the most comments so I'll post here. If your car is not garaged be aware of a rash of break-ins in Smyrna.

I support the President 100% also, don't own a gun, and see no reason why anyone would own an assault weapon. The NRA has gone way off course. Pres. Obama doesn't want to take away anyone's guns.

Ask Chicago how the gun bans and strict laws are working....As Great Britian a out the rise in crime.....or Austrailia about the 20 percent increase in home invasion. When guns are banned only the criminal have guns.

“I am a witness to history.

“I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history.

If you remember the plot of the Sound of Music, the Von Trapp family escaped over the Alps rather than submit to the Nazis. Kitty wasn’t so lucky. Her family chose to stay in her native Austria. She was 10 years old, but bright and aware. And she was watching.

“We elected him by a landslide – 98 percent of the vote,” she recalls.

She wasn’t old enough to vote in 1938 – approaching her 11th birthday. But she remembers.

“Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.”

No so.

Hitler is welcomed to Austria

“In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25 percent inflation and 25 percent bank loan interest rates.

Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they didn’t want to work; there simply weren’t any jobs.

“My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people – about 30 daily.’

“We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany, where Hitler had been in power since 1933.” she recalls. “We had been told that they didn’t have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living.

“Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group – Jewish or otherwise. We were led to believe that everyone in Germany was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria. We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back.

“Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.

“We were overjoyed,” remembers Kitty, “and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and
everyone was fed.

“After the election, German officials were appointed, and, like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.

“Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn’t support his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been re- quired to give up for marriage.

“Then we lost religious education for kids

“Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school.. The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler’s picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldn’t pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang ‘Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles,’ and had physical education.

“Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail.”

And then things got worse.

“The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free.

“We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.

“My mother was very unhappy,” remembers Kitty. “When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn’t do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful. There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun – no sports, and no political indoctrination.

“I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it. Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing.

“Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By that time, unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler.

“It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn’t exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.

“In 1939, the war started, and a food bank was established. All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn’t work, you didn’t get a ration card, and, if you didn’t have a card, you starved to death.

“Women who stayed home to raise their families didn’t have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.

“Soon after this, the draft was implemented.

“It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps,” remembers Kitty. “During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys.

“They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines.

“When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat.

“Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service.

“When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers.

“You could take your children ages four weeks old to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, seven days a week, under the total care of the government.

“The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

“Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna..

“After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything.

“When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full.

“If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

“As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80 percent of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families.

“All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.

“We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables.

“Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar. He couldn’t meet all the demands.

“Soon, he went out of business. If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.

“We had consumer protection, too

“We were told how to shop and what to buy. Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms, count the livestock, and then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it.

“In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps. The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated.

“So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good manual work.

“I knew one, named Vincent, very well. He was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van.

“I asked my superior where they were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months.

“They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness.

“As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.

“Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law-abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

“No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

“Totalitarianism didn’t come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria. Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.”

“This is my eyewitness account.

“It’s true. Those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity.

“America is truly is the greatest country in the world. “Don’t let freedom slip away.

“After America, there is no place to go.”

Kitty Werthmann

Sorry for the long post but I thought it important

Just think about it

The background checks need to include everybody who will have access to the guns. If a background check had been done on Adam Lanza, I doubt that his mother would have been able to buy so many guns. I have no problem with people owning guns, although I fail to see the need for assault rifles. And if you have kids and you have guns and you think you have them safely locked up, just remember that kids can be sneaky. Not just them, but some kids can be talked into things by their friends. Personally, I think that if you have kids, just don't tell them you have a gun. Take the "interest" away. I know that a young girl, somewhere, recently shot someone who broke into her home while she was home alone. It's great that she was able to do that, but, God, do you want your child living with the fact that they killed someone?

I've alway had a gun in my life. I know no one is trying to take any bodies gun away.

I don't know what the big deal is about.

To all who have commented:
1) We as Americans are a spoiled, self-centered breed of people who think the 2nd amendment is so damn important! We want to state our rights! the only right you have is to breath air! do you think for one second when you die there are gun stores or NRA in heaven? Dumb Asses!
2) NRA Spokesman Mr Lapierre is on DOPE!
3) That Alec Jones moron who tried to get Piers Morgan deported after their head to head interview on CNN needs medication!

So now we are punishable by not only our own actions but by the actions of others as well?
Exactly where will that line be?
Could it be said the mother should go to jail for the kids actions what about the father or siblings.
That is a steep slippery slope you want us to go down PJ

what about your teens friends "just remember that kids can be sneaky. Not just them, but some kids can be talked into things by their friends" remember that? so are you ready to go to jail if one of your kids friends finds out where you keep your gun and takes it and hurts some one with it?
on another note the wepon used in the latest shooting was not bu fedral standards an assault wepon.
Every time you start writing laws some one else will want to take it "just a little further"
This is the problem. Personally I do not own any guns but with my father in the military I grew up with guns all over the house I was raised with them and respect what they can do. I just never got the thrill of owning or shooting gun. the times I have shot a friends gun I am verry good with it I just dont see the need in my life but I know If I want one I have the right to owne one. and I like that right!

I think the current potus is an idiot and so is anyone that thinks that his executive orders are going to cause me to give up my weapons!!! The second amendment is meant for all people that CAN legally own a weapon!! I am against anyone trying to take my weapons away UNLESS I have done something that requires it to be taken and then I would freely surrender it!! The current potus is trying to make this a socialist country and the more that he thinks he can do to make people dependent on the government then the better off he will be!!! There are to many people that are dependent on the government because of his stupid policies!!!

" There are stories every week where a child has found their parent's gun and used it. Like I said, if you have guns, just don't tell your kids about them."
so they can find them by acedent and not know anything about them.
you would be looking for trouble, remember..."just remember that kids can be sneaky."
Teach your kidds about guns like my father did me and your kidd will have less chance of making the mistake of playing with them.

"The new gun laws that Obama has proposed have nothing with taking your guns away."
If (and im not saying he is) Obama wanted as the end result to take the guns away These new laws would be the start and it is just a start.
like I said before let the Govt draw a line and there would always be someone else who wants to slide that line just a little more
It is really not Obama I'm afraid of it is three presidents down the road who will that be what do they want to do with that line? that is what you have to watch for....Unless we stop the government drawing the line at all.

I believe that something needs to be done about violence.

It has nothing to do with banning any kind of firearm.

First, we need to put some teeth in the thousands of laws that are already on the books. Prosecute criminals. Don't try to rehabilitate them. Put them away for punishment. If people are worried about gun crimes, lock a criminal up for the rest of his natural life if he commits a crime with a firearm.

If a criminal uses a firearm and kills someone, EXECUTE them. Give them 90 days to appeal then let them take the thirteen steps up the gallows. That 90 days is a lot longer than the appeal their victim had.

If a person under 21 is caught with a handgun, that is already illegal. Five years at hard labor. If a person knowingly provides a handgun to a person under 21, they get the same sentence.

Banning any firearm is about as useful as prohibition in the 1920's was. All it did was create a new breed of liquor gangsters. Marajuana and other narcotics are also illegal. Banning guns will work about as well. All it does it to create narco-villians. We will just have a blackmarket in guns and ammo. Someone will get rich.

Now before people just try to yell me down for my beliefs, have you ever been to a foreign country where firearms are banned. There is a thriving black market in guns. The other thing those countries have in common, their people are subject, not citizens. They do not enjoy the rights that we have in this country.

Thank your blessings!

A common thread among many opponents of gun ownership is the lack of ability to even define an assault weapon. To many of you, if it looks scary, it must be an assault weapon. Also, please look at those areas with the toughest anti-gun laws.. How are these laws working out for them?

As I say one my blog sites (http://impeachobama2013.blogspot.com/ and http://impeachobama2012.blogspot.com/) Mr Obama is the worst president we have had since Jimmy Carter.

I also have a few things to say about some foolish Republicans that are getting snookered by the NAACP to put before the Ga. legislature a bill to have Georgia apologize for slavery.

I wrote to the Chairperson of that organization to let her know that any such apology is done without me, neither I nor any member of my family have ever owned slaves and we have no apology to make to anyone.

Pam, what you say has a lot of merit. Keep in mind though that both parties have equally shared hatemongering. Both parties.

First off I do not hate anyone.
As far as President Obama I do not think he is doing a good job. However He was elected president by a majority of voters and we conservative voters just have to live with it. I would not want anything to happen to the president as that would be bad for the country and his family I respect the office as I always have.
As I said earlier it is a slippery slope letting any president of the federal government start to "define" one of our rights. as that definition can change in an instant or down the road. the line does not stop for very long.
it is not necessarily Obama I’m worried about but the next 4 or 5 presidents that each move the line a little further towards full taking of the guns.
That is what I’m concerned about.

Pete, I agree with you. I too feel that he's done a poor job and principally because he has worked to inflame his base which is principally made up of takers and not givers. It certainly doesn't apply to all of them but far too many. He ramrods his dangerous agenda down the throats of the people without regard for the institutions that have kept us well and vibrant for two hundred years. In my view, he has not been good for this country.

As the first black President, President Obama was not going to have an easy time of it. I think we can all agree on that. He has faced a lot of obstacles, some he's managed to overcome and some he hasn't. These are hard times. Society is changing and it's got to be hard for a President to try and make everybody happy. And who is Obama's "base", CLUBFV?

Ok so if a insane person wants to shoot a whole bunch of people they would have to bring three 10 round magazines instead of one 30 round magazine. I can drop a empty mag and reload in less than three seconds.their are rifles more powerfull and could kill far more than an ar-15 the only reason we use them in service is because they are light not the best for killing people they wound and didn't this kid in ct. Shoot and kill the owner and STEAL her guns? How do you stop that with a gun ban? You can't. You move on people die in plane crashes,drunk driving accidents we can't ban everything! This is obama using the death of children to hip up his base and push his agenda.adam lanzing is obama's scape goat

First you are the only one freaking out, no body else that I see. You think because I am cautious and concerned that I am jumping to conclusions about taking our guns away! When it is you. Just read what you say" because everybody's freaking about about having their guns taken away" Not everybody!
Second Universal background checks as explained by the President would not have stopped Adam They are only pushing to close the loophole on private sales and gun shows where back round checks are not done. Nobody is proposing the kind of background check you are proposing due to the fact it is totally unconstitutional! people in this country have rights and I’m not submitting to a back round check just because some one I live with wants a gun that I wont touch anyway, it is a illegal search and that stuff belongs in communist country's and dictatorships.
did you volunteer to get everyone in your household checked when you brought those guns home??? I bet not.

YES it is another beutifull day in ATL!

IMPEACH OBAMA and Save America!

In Mr. Obama we have a hack political organizer from the Chicago Daley machine. He is totally unqualified to be President and he is leading the Country down the wrong path and he needs to be impeached and removed from office.

See:
http://impeachobama2013.blogspot.com/
http://impeachobama2012.blogspot.com/

ROTFLMAO Pam !

keep in mind almost every president has had people trying to impeach him

I love the way people comment here on: The President is NOT going to take your guns away, well--Did you not hear that Gov. Komo (NY State) first statement to his law officials was: "we could go door to door and ask for the guns". UH, NO, and I guess someone told him NO. Why aren't we getting rid of hammers and knives? More hammers killed more people last year. Why don't we get mad at the Gov't for not taking care or helping the mentally ill in this country??? In every mass murder event, it is caused by a "sick" individual, always. Why don't the REAL PROBLEMS get addressed?? If you take away guns from people that have purchased them, got a permit to have them? You think that the sick, the thugs of this country will NOT have them? Think again. The only people that will have guns will be the bad people and the police, and that is scary. I don't agree w/the President, and He will NOT stop til their is another mass murder so He can take our weapons. I have had a home invasion and I know why I need a gun in my house. I live in a very nice upscale area, so don't go thinking well, its probably the neighborhood, NO not my neighborhood. Its time to take care of the sick, I know families that have mentally ill grown kids, can't get insurance, can't get help, if they call the officials they will take them, and by week end they are delivered back to the parents. This mass murder was a set up totally from the Gov't. Those precious children didn't have to die! Blame D.C.

By the way, so much has been said by one poster about respecting the President, and I have been called immature cause I called Jimmy Carter a goon, BUT I also said that I was also a goon for voting for him! Back in the day, He was a genuis, very smart man, and I voted for him, but in reality, He was the worst president, and I should have known, He was a terrible Govenor. NOW, with ALL of that said, I do respect the OFFICE of the Presidency, however I will never respect the present President as He has not regard to the American people, He is a socialist and if anyone reads his bio, it matches to the letter the same bio of Hitler, people loved him too at first. 2ND, of all-Some of the strictest gun laws in this land are in Chicago, guess what, IT has done nothing for the HIGH CRIME with guns in Chicago, that's what I've said all alone, if you take them away from the good citizens, then who still has them? Just like drugs, that are illegal-they are still out there, so all the laws are against the good citizens, the thugs and killers are still going to be thugs and killers. Also, the "alledged" killer in the school shooting, some "sources" say the mom trained her son in gun training, That young man was sick and SHE had also begged for help from Gov't agencies with NO avail. It was also reported she was a teacher in the school, that wasn't true either, becareful what you believe about this shooting, 90% reports are incorrect, "cover-up"? hhhhmmmm, think so.

AND ONE poster keeps asking what did Bush do? Well, we had some great tax cuts that were NOT kept in place, so when you file your taxes next year, you might remember what He did..cause you ain't going to have your deductions that we've enjoyed. Bush spent TOO much, but this President spent THREE TIMES THE MONEY IN THREE YEARS compared to Bush's EIGHT years. I'm sick of hearing about the economy is Bush's fault, its time for the Democrat to take ownership of this economy, AND HE HAD MAJORITY in house/senate first 2 1/2 years to do whatever, so no excuses, THIS IS NOW OBAMA'S ECONOMY, OWN IT! Its time to quit the blame game. This is YEAR FIVE--What is He going to do to turn this economy around? i DIDN'T hear a thing in his speech last Monday,