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POLL: Is the TSPLOST ballot preamble biased?

The TSPLOST ballot preamble is being criticized for its possible bias. What do you think?

 

On July 31, voters in Cobb and the rest of the 10-county metropolitan region will cast their ballots on the Transportation Investment Act to decide whether to establish a one-cent special transportation sales tax on themselves to fund various transportation projects.

The phrasing of the ballot preamble has been criticized by some for being biased.

Larry Savage, who is running for Cobb County Chairman, feels the preamble to the ballot question, not the ballot itself, is an attempt to sway voters. Savage asserted this claim at a candidate forum sponsored by the Cobb Republican Women's Club.

According to the Marietta Daily Journal, to prove a point, Savage attempted to show the audience a mock ballet which extolled his virtues, but this measure was disallowed by the moderator.

“The ballot that I was going to show you has a statement added to it that says I’m the best candidate,” Savage said. “That wouldn’t be fair, and everybody knows that. But the real ballot has a statement added to it saying the TSPLOST is really a good thing.” 

The ballot preamble states that the TSPLOST,  “Provides for local transportation projects to create jobs and reduce traffic congestion with citizen oversight.

 

What do you think? Is the question preamble biased? Tell us in the comments below.

Related Topics: transportation investment act and tsplost

Chris Roberts

7:23 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

I don't know if it's biased but it sure is making a bunch of assumptions. It should read something more like "Spending billions on a bunch of small projects with the hopes that one of them actually helps traffic"

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Ron Sears

12:22 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

I agree Chris there are a lot of assumptions and not enough hard plans. It's time we took a serious look at all of the 1 percent taxes. I think they end up just wasting money.

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John A Delves

1:48 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

Bias isn't the word for it. According to the preamble All the problems in pot holes, rapid transit, unemployment and medical situations will be cured and you'll be able to get from Kennesaw or even Acworth to Atlanta in 10 minutes. And its only going to cost you one red cent, a singular penny. Yeah right!!

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Kiri Walton

1:50 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

Is it OK that the preamble for the TSPLOST ballot question says the TSPLOST would "create jobs" and "reduce traffic congestion?" Does that seem biased?

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J Kilgore

2:50 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

In Glynn County, the ballot reads - Provides for local transportation projects to create jobs, improve roads and safety with citizen oversight. T SPLOST does NOT create jobs, we can improve the roads without T SPLOST, and there is ABSOLUTELY no citizen oversight. For anyone to believe that two of the biggest clowns in state government, David Ralston and Casey Cagle, will appoint responsible citizens to the citizen's board is laughable. They will do what they always do, appoint a couple of equally corrupt, bought and paid for hacks who are nothing but straw men for a rubber stamp. VOTE NO ON JULY 31st.

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John A Delves

8:39 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

You get em. Glynn County is no better than Cobb County. Only possible difference is we will have lots more money for those clowns to disperse and dispose of. No traficc reduction and no more "Quality Time "with the family.

Yea KIlgore you get em.

Mark A

5:12 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

@J Kilgore:

"T SPLOST does NOT create jobs" - false. there is absolutely a correlation between more infrastructure being built, especially on this large of a scale.

"we can improve the roads without T SPLOST" - partially true, on a very, very limited basis up to this point, but this is more than just about roads.

"and there is ABSOLUTELY no citizen oversight" - ABSOLUTELY FALSE. "A Citizen Oversight Committee of non-elected officials would be appointed by the Speaker of the House and Lieutenant Governor to help ensure that projects are completed on time and on budget. An annual audit published on a public website will report progress on individual projects and keep citizens apprised of project spending."

http://connectgeorgia2012.com/downloads/TSPLOST_QA.pdf

Please wipe the foam from your mouth.

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J Kilgore

7:23 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

@ Mark A

What really concerns about your continued well-beling Mark, is your sycophantic reliance on Ralston and Cagle appointing their Crack Citizen Committee ("CCC") that is going to be capable of doing what the entire staff in the State Auditor's office has not been capable of doing for the last four years. GDOT has not had a "clean" audit of the books and records for more than four years, and indeed the State Auditor has documented that certain of the project funds at GDOT are out of balance by as much as $ 100 MILLION or MORE. The Commissioner even admitted that the GDOT financial statements are not accurate. He went on to admit that there is NO possibility of the financial statements and budgetary information to be accurate for at least five years. So Mark, please explain how the CCC is going to be accomplish this great annual audit that you are fantasizing about.

Here is a web site for you, where you can find the REAL truth, no fiction. www.stoptsplostregion12.org

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J Kilgore

7:35 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

@ Mark
You should really consider conducting some of your own research Mark, rather than relying on the great prevaricators at the Chamber. Do you remember the stimulus that B. Hussein Obama crammed down the throat of the US ? It was about $ 800 BILLION, and was GUARANTEED to keep unemployment below 8 percent. How is that Keynesian theory working for you Mark ? The proposition that the government will take money from the private sector, where jobs really ARE created, and then the government is going to invest the money taken from the people and THAT is going to create jobs is patently FALSE. Between 2009 and the end of 2010, the state of Georgia spent more than $ 925 MILLION in stimulus funds ("Obama money") and at the start of 2009 Georgia unemployment was 5.2 percent. AFTER spending the stimulus money, in January of 2011, Georgia's unemployment rate had risen to 10.1 percent.

Keep trying Mark, eventually in life you will find something that you are right about.

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Mark A

10:51 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

Lol. I realize that trust in the government is at an all time low, especially along republicans and/or tea partiers, but this takes the cake. Government may be spreading itself over too many areas, but infrastructure is one of those in which it is completely necessary. Think of eisenhower's interstate highway act, for an example.

Houston, Dallas, Austin, Salt Lake City, Minneapolis and Denver are all cities which have invested significant monies over the past decade into transportation infrastructure of both the roads and rails types, and both have been reaping the benefits for the past 5-10 years, even through this recession. I picked this wide a variety of cities from both sides of the political spectrum, to show the job growth that occurred in spite of the variations in politics (clearly, Dallas is as or more republican than Atlanta, while Denver or MSP are far more)

I find it very interesting how little you trust our state government, considering how it is one of the most conservative state governments in the entire country. Other states (including some far more liberal) have been weathering the recession far better than we have...

I'm looking forward to going over your website and debunking it...

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J Kilgore

11:08 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012

Be sure and donate while you are there Mark.

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Doug

10:55 am on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

Each family living in Cobb will spend thousands of dollars for the 1% tax over the 10 year period. Vote NO!

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Mark A

11:27 am on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

Vote NO! enjoy your alone time sitting in traffic breathing the fumes of the tailpipes in front of you with your head in the sand, knowing you got your piece of the pie while at the same time preventing the future growth and improvement of the area. AKA, Detroit-South!

J Kilgore

11:47 am on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

@ Mark A
You continue with that useless Chamber blather about how if we don't approve T SPLOST then the world is going to come to an end. Would you please demonstrate your command of the issue by explaining how defeating the tax will "...prevent(ing) the future growth and improvement of the area."

GDOT will continue to receive the fuel tax which is Constitutionally protected and goes DIRECTLY to GDOT, with no interference from the General Assembly. GDOT has over $ 3 BILLION dollars in cash and receivables ($ 1.7 BILLION receivable from the federal government) on its Balance Sheet and we will continue to get the same world class roads that has resulted in Georgia being ranked in the top ten in the US in terms of road quality for all of the previous ten years. In 2011 Georgia was ranked 7th in the country.

Go ahead, Mark, show off your intellectual depth of understanding of this issue.

By the way, have you contributed yet ? www.stoptsplostregion12.org

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Mark A

6:54 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

I'm not blathering. It's pretty obvious that our closest competitor cities (especially Dallas and Houston!) already have immensely better road systems based on grids along with more freeways, and they are also investing hugely in large Light Rail systems (to catch up with our MARTA) while we have a terrible road system and stagnating investment and improvement in our transit system. TEXAS IS KICKING OUR @SS when it comes to jobs, and not just in Houston where OIL is booming. The number one complaint about our region IS traffic congestion, and this is the first serious piece of legislature in a LONG time to try to do ANYTHING about it at all.

THE DOT DID NOT PLAN THIS, almost half of it is transit after all. Deal keeps freezing the gas tax increase in hopes that we will pass the T-SPLOST. Is the entire conservative state government of GA that corrupt to you? Infrastructure is what built Atlanta in the first place - the railroads, airport and freeways. We need to keep investing in it, lest we become Detroit.

Marie Fievet

1:05 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

I can't say the language is biased, I consider it misleading. Too many folks do not deal well with convoluted wording, they just scan and move on. All I do know about this T-SPLOST is that I do not feel it will help traffic problems for the regular everyday commuter. How do all those Atlanta projects help everyone else? Too many politicians trying to force this tax on us - NO, NO, NO. Traffic needs to be fixed, but not by the current folks in the DOT, we are already aware that they do not know what they are doing, they do not spend our funds wisely!

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Mark A

6:47 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

none of this was planned by anyone at the DOT. this was put together by legislature and further whittled down by two years of various board meetings at every level of state government - counties, cities, towns. i agree that our DOT is pretty dense when it comes to issues of planning.

D in Austell

8:40 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

Theres no way in Gods green earth or a devils hell am I going to vote to tax myself or others and let politicians and government that has already proven to be incompetent on this issue any more money of mine to steal or bungle. When will we wise up to the game the politicans are pulling on us??? How much more can a person with a job or income keep being taxed , apparently endlessly in the eyes of our local elected and state officals and politicans, heck all politicans .. Stop the madness and the overspending or foolish spending. Earn your pay and come up with a way to get this done with private funding. Dont say it cant be done, with private make it happen and stop making excuses geez!

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D in Austell

8:43 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

Yes it seems biased to sway voters to vote for the Tsplst to me

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D in Austell

8:47 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

TSPLOST= Taxing ,Spending ,Peoples money ( LOST) That LOST part of the TSPLOST is not there for nothing. ! Can I have the same type of health care as the President and Congress and Senate, and give up my Obama Care to somebody else?

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D in Austell

8:50 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

Man they are just saying it will create JOBS too fool the foolable which is most people , the more you trust the politicians and the government the more you get screwed PLEASE believe IT!

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J Kilgore

10:29 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012

@ Mark A
Good LORD man, I know you can read because you respond to the postings.

You talk so much about Texas, certainly you DO KNOW that they have NO state income TAX, do you not ? Do you suppose that may have something to do with the people and businesses moving to that state ? Might that be an indication that you should OPPOSE T SPLOST ?

Mark, we do NOT have terrible roads. I have already pointed out to you that Georgia's roads are rated 7th in the entire country, and our roads have been in the top ten for as long as I can remember.

I have already pointed out to you that MARTA is woefully inefficient, operating at a deficit of tens of millions of dollars every year, with a declining ridership. Therefore, if we invest even more in MARTA to build more hard assets that will only have to be maintained, the losses will grow even larger.

Lastly, you are TOTALLY WRONG about GDOT. Every project that is on EVERY project list in all 12 Regions was already on the GDOT books prior to TIA. All of the previously approved project lists were presented to the Roundtables and those lists were pared down to fit within the Region budgets. Call GDOT, ask for Todd Long. He will explain it to you.

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