Sorry you cannot see the true greatness and destiny of America...it is just coming into its own as the melting pot of all the diverse peoples of the world....this is a great time for America and the world...imagine...the only country with such a rich diversity and where there will be no majority race in my lifetime...a true "United" states with a rich unity in diversity. This is the true greatness of America--not its material wealth and not its military might, both of which are necessarily diminishing in this new world where spiritual distinction will rule.

No Military needed cause there will be NOTHING left worth defending? Excellent

First of all, let me state it again....there are plenty of jobs and I can help anyone get a job (another service I and my orgs provide to the community), including you Pam and anyone who wants to work. (Note: it may not be a job in the field which you want, for now, but it will be honest work with a living wage.) I find that most Americans just want to complain so people like Jesus and others who are "newer" Americans and are happy to work will find and keep employment.
I have made this challenge repeatedly in all of the media....if anyone feels that they have been or will be displaced by an immigrant I will help them find a job (and, no surprise, I have never had a taker from those that complain about the immigrants:-) but the offer still stands! (I am a business consultant and companies which are hiring contact me for workers, and I never have a shortage of open positions, but again, it may not be exactly what you are seeking but I know that in my life I have had to take "filler" jobs until I found exactly what I wanted.)

Okay, Richard, exactly what kind of jobs are you talking about?

Jobs: customer service, sales, marketing, office, warehouse, etc, etc.
A big part of getting the job is getting the interview and then selling yourself. I can train anyone to do this and give free job workshops on it and then connect people to opportunities. But if you send me your resume I can work one on one with you too (pilgrim1@mindspring.com) .

Richard, I prefer not to send you my resume, but I appreciate the offer. Most of my experience has been in offices, so that's where my strengths lie. I doubt if you know about any jobs that I don't because I check about a million sites every day.

To me Jesus has earned his right to be an American. And your version of history and especially the history of immigration to this country is certainly myopic and revisionist. Many groups, including Italians, Irish and others came here illegally at the time (one reason why italians, my ancestors, were called "wops" which means "without papers") and others forced their way in and displaced others through violence and other treachery. And yes the government did help them, and they worked hard, and they learned the language--guess what....just like the current wave of immigrants from south of the border (who incidentally, according to all independent studies, are learning English and assimilating faster than our European ancestors did). All of what you are describing about the current immigrants were said about our ancestors by the dominant groups of WASPS at the time and you are just repeating the untruths of the past which are spread now by those who want to see a white-only or white dominated society (if you want that you may have to go to the North Pole). That is gone and that is not America...and is not the world which God or whomever you believe in created....one rich in diversity like the flowers of a garden or a rich buffet and feast. And yes, the day in which a few can succeed at the expense of others is over too...this is a spiritual revolution predicted by all the prophets...a great day to be alive!!!

So how did he do that?
"To me Jesus has earned his right to be an American"

R...he earned his right to be an American by being brought here as a child through no fault or decision of his own, by working hard in school to graduate and become a productive society member with the only law that he broke being that he drove without a license which the state would not give him...hardly a criminal. This is the only country he knows and it is his country.

And intentionally “Driving without a License” is the “Continental Divide” that separates us. This is BREAKING the LAW with a potential to KILL others…

Work Permit should be denied simply based on this act alone,
( if you can suspend disbelief of our current process long enough to do so).

MANY people live and thrive without driving, so why should this youngster be so SPECIAL?

And if he was brought here that means his FOLKS made the PERSONAL CHOICE to foul-up his life and CONTINUE to do so. Are they still here free as a bird?

Well said!

I agree. It's a slap in the face to all of the immigrants that entered this country the legal way. It's like giving a free ride to people who have broken the law. While I believe this young man would probably be an asset to society, the fact remains that he is here illegally. What the President has done regarding the illegal immigrants is a big problem considering they will all be given free reign to take jobs that U.S. citizens can't even get. Companies need to stand up and say "no", but they probably won't. I "chatted" with Jojo at AT&T yesterday and her/his attempt to make sense was laughable. The English language was being butchered up one side and down the other. But I'm sure that Jojo was not even in the U.S.

There you go insulting millions of human beings again...no human being is an "illegal" unless everyone is, including you and I. The same people who call these good people that label called the blacks the "N" word (and many still do). You should be ashamed of yourselves. That is nothing but bullying and it shows a lack of self love and self-esteem. A history lesson: many of these people are mixed Native American...hmmm...who stole whose land?

Richard you are correct for sake of the narrow definition…

While humans are neither legal or illegal in and of themselves, ACTIONS can be either legal or not.

The biggest problem here is the conscience choice made by each individual to continue in this state of existence. They PERSONALLY, completely control that individual choice and this goes WELL beyond any specific “group” within the human race...

So again another instance of an undocumented DRIVING?

Why doesn’t this act appear to faze you in the slightest?
There is no right, just because of birth, to drive ANYWHERE.
Again how does one show respect?

And just for fun, other immigrants from Europe entered through the FRONT door at Ellis Island, not just suddenly “popping in” as if using a Star Trek Transporter station. WHY is that SIMPLE distinction so HARD to embrace?

Richard, it's no use bringing up things that happened 200 years ago. Things are different now. Society has to adapt to the state of our union. We are in trouble and adding more people will not help. If we allow 1+M illegal aliens to obtain work permits and they still can't find jobs, they will expect the government to take care of them. We don't have enough jobs for American citizens, even though you seem to think we do. We have new college graduates who can't find jobs and who will be competing with non-U.S. citizens. Things are different now. We cannot afford to be as "nice" as we once were and probably should be. A lot of people are losing everything they had. If you think those people (me included) should welcome these people with open arms, you have obviously no idea what it means to lose everything. It would be very difficult for me to encourage a company to hire Jesus, not because I think he doesn't deserve it, but because I can't find a freakin' job (and you haven't answered my question about what kind of jobs you know about) and there are a lot of people just like me. I feel like I'm being pushed aside so that these "new" citizens can be rewarded for being illegal.

R...ah, you believe the same stuff we were force fed about immigrants coming in "legally" at Ellis Island...until I did some research and found that that was true in only some cases but many had fake documents and other ways around the system to get in illegally, including my own italian grandparents I learned. This is common knowledge if one researches history...and every new immigrant group was opposed and called "illegal" and worse...so why repeat history when we should have grown up. Also, I have tons of documented proof that we all invited these 12 million undocumented people here for cheap labor (all major corporations and many small businesses and all levels of government including GA state government during the Olympics--and by extension every American who patronized and voted for them--so we are all complicit and hence "illegal" if anyone is). The Comprehensive Immigration Reform that we, including many conservatives like President Bush, Jeb Bush, John McCain, 150 evangelical Christian organizations including Focus on the Family, have been promoting would put an end to and fix the open borders issue, make realistic quotas and waiting times for legal immigration, provide temporary work visas for businesses that really need these workers, and include a path to citizenship for those who have earned it due to their hard work and other qualities. If the so-called "right" would stop blocking this the problem will be solved.

And Ellis Island arrivals were quarantined as required, one of MANY steps the current border jumper class bypassed.

And all those that hired them under the table will most likely burn one day, but I personally don't intend to allow this misguided approach to "continue" any longer.

Just because wrongs were committed in the past doesn't lock us in to repeat it, because we do grow and see the results caused by our "group errors".

Put downs after put downs and labels after labels. Try www.nolabels.org for people who are actually trying to solve problems rather than blaming others for their problems.

We are deporting "God" every time we deport one of his children.

Oh, give me a break.

First of all they all had drivers licenses and insurance before the holier than thou crowd at the state legislature stopped that. And had the immigration reforms I have been fighting for both at the state and federal level (which are incidentally blocked by the Inman Dustin Society and their like) would have helped their family and may have prevented the incident in the first place. We have reached out to that family in the past but they are trapped in hate and manipulated by the leaders of their anti-immigrant organizations, who incidentally raise millions to fight immigrants and pass draconian laws--using the name of that family but apparently not helping them with any of those funds--a perfect example of the poor being used and manipulated by politicians, white supremacists, and other demagogues. A sad story indeed.

Shame on you Kiri - American citizens carry insurance and the insurance pays. It is not even close to the same thing.

Give the name of the mom who is paralyzed and has tremendous medical bills. Bet not. No one can give back Kathy Inman her only son, but also no one is helping them with the continued care she needs. And no one can deny that drunk driving is particularly a problem with illegals. Ask Kenny Schackleford, his daughter was killed with several of her friends, and what about Sheriff's Deputy Loren Lilly, killed by a drunken illegal who then left him to die alone in a ditch. There are web sites with lists of the many dead. But for the fact that they should not have been here in the first place, the deaths would not have occurred. We can educate our citizen drivers and there will always be some yahoos who do not follow the law, but we can demand that illegal drivers be deported out of our country. Who was the employer who provided the $$ for them to purchase a car? They should be held responsible, since our government continues to fail us.

Sales taxes do not pay for the cost of education - $8,000 per child per year or more, plus many other expenses. When a landscaper has 4 or more children and a big brand new truck, how do you explain how that is possible? Get real. Most citizens who pay heath insurance and their co-pays, etc. with two working parents cannot afford 4 or more children.

Kiri, yes it happens every day where an American citizen gets killed by another American citizen in a car accident. But I would bet that at least 90% of those citizens have insurance. If you get hit by an illegal alien, all bets are off. And if you are one of those people, it is a big deal to you. Also, are all of the illegals who have "jobs" paying payroll taxes? Probably not. While I do not believe that the children of illegals should suffer, it is a burden on our government to take care of them. In a great economy we probably wouldn't even be talking about this. But we are in dire straits right now and money used to help people who broke the law willingly is going to be looked at more closely. You have a job, so it really doesn't affect you that much. If I still had my job, I probably wouldn't care that much. But I have too much time on my hands and no money, so I do care.

GA Patriot, since you refer to Ms. Inman, and D.A. King founded the Dustin Inman Society, I would love to invite Mr. King to write a letter to the editor about this subject. If you contact him, please let him know. I think this would be a great forum for him.

Pam, interesting insight about undocumented immigrants and car insurance. It's given me an idea for a future article. Also, I think that all these issues still affect those of us with jobs and your insights are valuable here just so that the conversation continues and maybe people will unite to make a difference about the things discussed here on South Cobb Patch.

GaPatriot and the like get their so-called "facts" about undocumented immigrants from hate groups and white supremacist organizations tied to the John Tanton network (who teaches in inferiority of the black and brown races). As soon as I exposed this in the local and national media they quietly removed his name from their boards of directors on their websites but he is still pulling the strings. And he is advising Romney, Gov. Deal and other leaders on immigration...hmmm...at least they are showing their true "colors".

Richard
Actually, many get their facts from firsthand experience within the system such as it is. This ISN'T a race issue at all, regardless of HOW HARD some try to CLAIM it is but a systematic failure of our leaders on ALL sides to address the needs of the country and the endless list of voters who allow it to continue by their own inaction .

The border situation would have a slightly different focus if the current President’s wife and daughters were to camp out along our southern border WITHOUT any Secret Service or other protections in place for a week or so.

Sorry but I don't get a penny from this work and spend thousands of my own money to enact reforms which will help all people, including the Inman family. (I am not complaining because it is a labor of love and I get more satisfaction than any amount of money can buy.) But again, these reforms are often blocked by so called conservatives. As for "conservatives" donating more...I don't see any proof or source here so I guess it is another emotional claim which you so decry, but if they do that includes donations to churches and I am a strong proponent on taxing the churches (even though I am a "believer") and using those funds to help the poor like some other countries do successfully.

This is an open public forum. Unless someone is violating the terms of use or personally attacking someone, their comments can remain here. They are not remaining because they "reflect those of the editor." Everyone's comments here remain because we don't censor people at Patch. Believe me, there are many, many comments I do not agree with on this site, but this is an objective publication and one that encourages (hopefully productive) conversation.